What If, In Red Dead Redemption II…?

Yeah I got another one of those darn Red Dead Redemption II articles – but hey, I’m really excited for this game and can’t wait to get my hands on it. And the release of the second trailer a while back is not helping much as ideas for the plot keep popping into my head.

Given the mass amount of detail Rockstar like to cram into their game worlds, I’m sure Red Dead Redemption II will be no different – I mean, they even added swinging horse-bollocks… they really have, check out the trailer closely. Actual horse-balls physics!

But there is one detail in the previous game that some people overlooked and its a detail I hope plays a bigger part in this sequel… err, prequel. And seeing as Red Dead Redemption II is a prequel – that means that my idea could work out too. Okay so for those not in the know despite the ‘II’ in the title of the game, Red Dead Redemption II is not a sequel but a prequel – even more so, it not really a II either.

Red Dead Revolver

Red Dead Revolver was the first game in the franchise and released in 2004 by Rockstar for the PlayStation 2 and Xbox. It told the story of bounty hunter Red Harlow (above) who uncovers the plot that killed his parents and extracts his revenge. This was followed by Red Dead Redemption for the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 in 2010. Where we play as John Marston trying to atone (or get redemption) for his past life as a gang-member – making this game the second in the series and Red Dead Redemption II the third… but its a prequel so technically its the second or could it even be the first?

See, we don’t actually know just how far back in the timeline of the series Red Dead Redemption II will go. Five years, ten, twenty, more? Which brings me to the aforementioned little detail in Red Dead Redemption that many people overlook or just did not know about. There has always been some sort of debate as to whether Revolver is even part of the Redemption series at all as many people claim that Redemption is in fact a reboot to the Red Dead franchise and exists in its own separate universe. Except that’s not true…

Red Harlow

That right there is Red Harlow from Revolver in Redemption – he is in the game. Now before everyone jumps in with ‘that’s only in the multiplayer’, yes that is very true. Numerous Revolver characters including Annie Stoakes, Shadow Wolf, Ugly Chris and even Red Harlow himself are playable in Redemption… but only as part of the multiplayer aspect and not the main story. So that really does not count does it?

You know how I talked about the level of detail Rockstar put into their games (horse-plums people!)? Well Redemption has a ton of tiny details too and one of them was being able to just wander over to a campsite in the dessert, sit down and listen to stories told by strangers. And who was the subject of some of those stories?

“You heard of that Red Harlow fella?

Red Harlow and his adventures, the events of Revolver are mentioned within the main story of Redemption more than once. That video is just one of the numerous stories told and more than one of them mentions Red Harlow by name. So there you have it, solid proof that Red Harlow and the events of Revolver happened and do exist within the main story of Redemption. So what does this all mean?

Well people are getting all excited about the prospect of John Marston returning as the new game is a prequel, me? I’m really not all that bothered if John returns or not, yeah it’ll be nice to see him and all that – but what if another character returns, what if Red Harlow is a part of the Redemption II story line? It is possible, it could happen right?

For me, I’d much rather see Red back over John… or what about both?

RedJohn

Given we don’t know exactly how far back Redemption II will go, its kind of hard to work out the timeline. But the main events of Revolver were set sometime in the 1800’s, I’ve not played the game for years so if anyone can come up with a more accurate date, it’ll be much appreciated – but I’m not even sure if an exact date was mentioned. While Redemption was set in 1911 with John being born in 1873, making him around 37-38 years old during the events of the game. So it is possible the two existed in the same place at the same time… depending on exactly when the events Revolver occurred. A younger John Marston could have interacted with an older Red Harlow and that could be a part of Redemption II‘s story even if its set 20 years before Redemption. A 17-18 year old John and a 50 year old Red? If Billy The Kid could be an outlaw by the age of 18 (and he was), then so could John Marston.

Red Dead Redepmtion 2 Image 7

The more I think about this, the more it makes sense. Redemption II could be the game that officially links the previous two games together… with added horse-nards!

 

What I Don’t Want From Red Dead Redemption 2

There’s going to be a new Red Dead Redemption 2 announcement very soon (in only a few hours in fact).

Red Dead Redepmtion 2 Teaser

Yes, Rockstar have been doing what they do best by teasing us fans when they Tweeted the above image and nothing else. But what is coming in a few hours? A new trailer? Gameplay footage? Online mode reveal? A confirmed release date?… another delay?

We can do nothing but wait…

Its been almost a year since Rockstar released the first teaser trailer in October of 2016 when they also teased a fall 2017 release date and if things had worked out – we most probably would all be playing Red Dead Redemption 2 right now. Of course the game was delayed until 2018 (as some predicted months ago), so no Red Dead Redemption 2 for us.

In the almost 12 month wait between that first trailer, Rockstar have remained very tight lipped and with the exception of a few images – they’ve shown us nothing. But this has not stopped fans from predicting what the new game will be about. A full on and direct sequel is what the title suggests, but given the fact the last game ends just as the wild west era was dying out – a sequel seems doubtful… possible but doubtful.

Others think it’ll be a prequel filling in the backstory of John Marston and his involvement with Dutch van der Linde’s gang that served as the backbone of the plot for Red Dead Redemption. Some have even suggested that’ll it could be both a sequel and a prequel featuring John’s son Jack Marston. With the player being both Jack in the ‘present’ telling the story of his father in the past via stories he was told growing up. But no matter what theory you look into – there’s one central factor that seems to be a fan favourite and that is that John Marston will be in Red Dead Redemption 2.

John Marston

Now, I love me some John Marston. In fact I would say he’s probably one of my all time favourite game characters ever. He’s charismatic, humble, caring as well as being a total bad-ass. The ending to Red Dead Redemption is still one of the most emotional and hard hitting game endings I’ve experienced and I miss playing as John as much as the next fan. But do you know what? I don’t want John in Red Dead Redemption 2.

Well let me rephrase that. I don’t want John as a main playable character. If Red Dead Redemption 2 is going to be a prequel – then I’d rather that Rockstar come up with all new characters and story. As much as I adore John Marston, I feel I’d rather play as a new character or characters – given Grand Theft Auto V’s multiple character mechanic, I’m sure we’ll see that return here too. But also like the Grand Theft Auto franchise, I always enjoy how they create all new characters for each game.

GTA V Characters

There are often references and ties to previous games (within each new Grand Theft Auto generation) and characters from one game can often appear in another. This is something I’d like to see with Red Dead Redemption 2 – a whole new set of main characters to play as but maybe have them cross paths with Dutch’s gang and John. Intertwine the stories and let us peak into the window of John’s previous life before Red Dead Redemption, sure have that story going on the background -but give us a totally new set of main characters to play as in the main story.

Yeah I love me some John Marston but I also think his history should remain just that – history. Keep it under wraps and leave us fans to make up our own mythology of John. Oh yeah, one more thing… a lot less wild flower picking too.

RDR giff

Just have to wait for the big reveal now…